Dirty Up a Harp? - Einstine - 14:30 27-11-05
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Any tips for getting a dirtier sound from the harp when amplified?
I am trying to run it through a small solid state amp with distortion,
which works ok but I would like to run the harp into the PA
without micing the amp, extra gear etc. Any pedals that would work
well for this?
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Re: Dirty Up a Harp? - Geetar Dave - 17:59 27-11-05
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I recommend a SansAmp - the original or classic (I think they are
identical).
I haven't used one live for this purpose, but I've "re-amped" some
recorded harp tracks through it with excellent results.
Good amp sounds, convenient pedal size. Very tweakable too.
-dave
www.themoodrings.com
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Re: Dirty Up a Harp? - Sasquatch - 23:23 27-11-05
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Use a Shure Green Bullet mike and run it into an old tube preamp.
Sasquatch
"Einstine" <noway@nohow.net> wrote in message
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> Any tips for getting a dirtier sound from the harp when amplified?
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> I am trying to run it through a small solid state amp with distortion,
> which works ok but I would like to run the harp into the PA
> without micing the amp, extra gear etc. Any pedals that would work
> well for this?
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Re: Dirty Up a Harp? - Tony Done - 03:19 28-11-05
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The Shure bullet is a hot mic, and I think it would be worth trying through
any suitable stomp box.
Tony D
"Sasquatch" <thanksbutnothanks@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Use a Shure Green Bullet mike and run it into an old tube preamp.
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> Sasquatch
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> "Einstine" <noway@nohow.net> wrote in message
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>> Any tips for getting a dirtier sound from the harp when amplified?
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>> I am trying to run it through a small solid state amp with distortion,
>> which works ok but I would like to run the harp into the PA
>> without micing the amp, extra gear etc. Any pedals that would work
>> well for this?
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Re: Dirty Up a Harp? - Keith Adams - 13:47 28-11-05
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Its done with technique. No gear will do it for you. A Harmonica
Honker mic will give you a fake subsitute but it aint the same.You've
got to find the sweet spots on the reeds and keep the pressure on em
right at the edge of self destruct(fatigue) The dudes you hear that
have that tone go through harps by the bushel basket . Dont know if he
still can but I heard that James Cotton could collapse the cover plates
when he beared down on a draw note. An airtight seal (or as close as
you can get to one)between the harp,micand your face is essential. You
also need to put the harp as far back into your mouth as you can get it
while still achieving a single note. This promotes playing through
your diaphram . You shouldnt have your mouth formed like sucking
through a straw. The back of the harp should also be tipped up towards
your nose a mite. A tongue block embouchure also helps. People who can
really play one get the sound you're after while playing unamplified.
It aint in the gear. It just amplifies your acoustic tone.
"Einstine" <noway@nohow.net> wrote in message
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Any tips for getting a dirtier sound from the harp when amplified?
I am trying to run it through a small solid state amp with distortion,
which works ok but I would like to run the harp into the PA
without micing the amp, extra gear etc. Any pedals that would work
well for this?
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On 27-Nov-2005, "Einstine" <noway@nohow.net> wrote:
> Any tips for getting a dirtier sound from the harp when amplified?
>
> I am trying to run it through a small solid state amp with distortion,
> which works ok but I would like to run the harp into the PA
> without micing the amp, extra gear etc. Any pedals that would work
> well for this?
The dirt, and I am talking about is a Chicago style harp sound which is an
amp driven to some clipping aided by blowing into a crystal mic. Clipping,
is in the rig, not the technique, as has been suggested in this thread. I
have a bullet mic with a srystal element, but I prefer the tone I get from
the RS mic. A harp played without amplification does not sound "dirty."
What qualifies as a "dirty" harp sound is different for each player, it is a
very subjective thing, but it does involve getting some distortion, some
grit, into the situation.
For years - heh...decades now... I have used a cheap Radio Shack dynamic
hi-Z mic, a cheap-ass delay pedal with a slap back setting, and a Pignose
amp (bought it in 1973). The delay pedal seems to overdrive the pignose so
it gets some nice grit to it and seems to compress the signal a bit as well.
I mic this rig thru the PA.
I have tried to use distortion pedals direct into the PA system with results
that have not pleased me. Too much grit and beaucoup feedback. Guitar with
lots of distortion is great, you do not need nearly as much for harp. And
since a harp involves a mic, the high gain squeal is hard to tame.
For a while I was using a Johnson J-Station in my home studio and had a
patch on it that worked very well for a gritty harp sound. Never used it
live though. I jusst got a GNX4 and haven't worked on a harp patch for it
yet.
You might try alt. music.harmonica. Good luck.
Jukeman
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Re: Dirty Up a Harp? - Don Evans - 01:59 06-12-05
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"Einstine" <noway@nohow.net> wrote in message
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> Any tips for getting a dirtier sound from the harp when amplified?
>
> I am trying to run it through a small solid state amp with distortion,
> which works ok but I would like to run the harp into the PA
> without micing the amp, extra gear etc. Any pedals that would work
> well for this?
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Check out the Harp Commander .. not cheap, but exactly what you want.
http://www.holmeseng.com/page5.html
Don
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