Music Royalties - Guncho - 11:06 25-11-05
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http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2005/11/2406.cfm
If the former drummer played on the albums in question and was a member
of the band at the time, he is entitled to receive royalties until the
end of time isn't he?
Not songwriting royalties, but album sales for sure.
That's my take on it.
Chris
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Re: Music Royalties - David Martel - 12:31 25-11-05
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Guncho,
This sort of thing is what lawyers do. The record company probably had a
contract with the band. The drummer may have had a contract too.
Dave M.
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Re: Music Royalties - Ricky Hunt - 18:47 25-11-05
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"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132934815.328187.158250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2005/11/2406.cfm
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> If the former drummer played on the albums in question and was a member
> of the band at the time, he is entitled to receive royalties until the
> end of time isn't he?
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> Not songwriting royalties, but album sales for sure.
>
> That's my take on it.
>
> Chris
Nickelback is dead in the water. Unless there was a contract in place before
hand (which I know no one who would have signed such a contract saying if
they leave the stop getting paid for future sales...that's ridiculous). I
don't see Nickelback winning this in a true court case.
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Re: Music Royalties - Jeff Thompson - 22:29 25-11-05
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If it is songwriting royalties that gets paid to who is listed as
writing the song.
There is no royalty for a performance.
Which was one of the things that angered Andy Summers about Sting
letting P-Diddy use his riff.
http://www.joelmabus.com/royalties.htm
If you show up and play on an album and do not have any written deal on
payments and are not in the writing credits you don't have to get squat.
Jeff
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Re: Music Royalties - Ricky Hunt - 23:32 25-11-05
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Re: Music Royalties - Don Evans - 12:05 26-11-05
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"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132934815.328187.158250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2005/11/2406.cfm
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> If the former drummer played on the albums in question and was a member
> of the band at the time, he is entitled to receive royalties until the
> end of time isn't he?
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> Not songwriting royalties, but album sales for sure.
>
> That's my take on it.
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> Chris
Unless he signed paper saying the opposite, I would think so. Does Kroeger
want to pay the royalties to the new guy who didn't do the recording? Maybe
he promised something he can't deliver? Sucks in any case. I've heard and
seen guys resent having to pay former members, partners and associates for
their contribution, but trying to take the money back is a new one on me.
The guy has the business ethics of the IRS if you ask me (that isn't a
compliment). ;-)
--
Don
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Re: Music Royalties - Don Evans - 12:08 26-11-05
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"Ricky Hunt" <rhunt22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:goNhf.602946$xm3.33564@attbi_s21...
> "Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1132934815.328187.158250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2005/11/2406.cfm
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>> If the former drummer played on the albums in question and was a member
>> of the band at the time, he is entitled to receive royalties until the
>> end of time isn't he?
>>
>> Not songwriting royalties, but album sales for sure.
>>
>> That's my take on it.
>>
>> Chris
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> Nickelback is dead in the water. Unless there was a contract in place
> before hand (which I know no one who would have signed such a contract
> saying if they leave the stop getting paid for future sales...that's
> ridiculous). I don't see Nickelback winning this in a true court case.
>
It isn't impossible that something like that could have been in contract
boilerplate and someone along the line told the guy it's "standard" and not
to worry ... wouldn't be the first time.
Don
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Re: Music Royalties - crow - 12:36 26-11-05
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"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132934815.328187.158250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2005/11/2406.cfm
>
> If the former drummer played on the albums in question and was a member
> of the band at the time, he is entitled to receive royalties until the
> end of time isn't he?
>
> Not songwriting royalties, but album sales for sure.
>
> That's my take on it.
>
> Chris
>
Record royalties are paid to the owner of the SR copyright. This is the
copyright of a specific performance of a work of the performing arts, in
this case: a song. This is the copyright that the record label 'buys' from
you with that big advance (that you, ultimately, have to repay). A
successful act like Nickleback probably does generate some sales royalties
(you almost have to go double platinum before the label runs out of places
to hide & launder your money) but they are probably much less than the
mechanical royalties which are payable to the owner of the PA copyright,
i.e. the singwriter(s) & publisher. It really boils down to whatever the
deal was between the members at the onset of their career. Remember - if
musicians get paid for spec sessions - it's very easy for a lawyer to spin
those payments into a 'work for hire' status regarding their performances -
even if there is no up front paperwork other than a cancelled check! I don't
know Chad but I have, through my job @ Spector, been involved in making
several bass guitars for Mike and I can tell you this: These guys have their
business shit together! It may be part sour grapes but I doubt that Chad
would initiate a lawsuit that he (& his lawyer) didn't feel confident about
winning.
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Re: Music Royalties - Hank L - 23:32 26-11-05
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>>>>>>>>>>>>Anyone remember a few years back when Sharon Osbourne had them
>>>>>>>>>>>>go back an re-record the bass and drums on early Ozzy
albums so she wouldn't have to pay the original guys?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Did Sharon Osbourne actually do this? What a cheap ass bitch. It's not like
they don't have enough money. Man I hate the music business and the
fuckheads that inhabit it.
That's why I dropped out and am strictly an amateur nowadays. I've never
been happier either.The only time I take money is if it's offered. We don't
even put out a tip jar. If people are entertained and want to slip us a few
bucks, fine. I'd rather them buy us beer though lol.
Hank
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Re: Music Royalties - Ricky Hunt - 01:33 27-11-05
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