Mahogany and maple. - Anthony - 04:16 21-11-05
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To my way of thinking, mahogany is not as strong as maple, it has
larger pores and just doesn't seem as hard as maple, such that it
gives warmer mid range tones
That property goes into the set neck philosphy you see with mahogany
solid body guitars. If I were to desgin a mahogany set neck/body solid
body guitar I'd have at least one single coil pick up in the
arrangement to compensate or at least make splitting possible with
stock humbuckers.
Yet Gibson don't do this (in a standard way, not sure about PRS),
thought they provide the maple top as a tone wood.
On the other end of the spectrum, Fender's range with bolt on maple
necks and a plethora of body woods (ash,alder etc) seem to offer the
extra sharpness of single coil PUps (and ever so exquistely enhanced
by the Telecaster bridge arrangement), without the sustain of same
wood types.
it begs the question I've never seen asked, does there exist a solid
body pure maple set neck guitar with coil splitting humbuckers or a
stock mahogany set body/neck guitar with bright pick ups ?
Or have I got to go into the business of expensive experimentation
with reagrd to guitar building ?
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - Mo - 05:34 21-11-05
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> Or have I got to go into the business of expensive experimentation
> with reagrd to guitar building ?
>
It's too late...you're already on the slippery slope...
I started out with just a simple mod last year...I'm almost done with my
first full build.
If you can dream it, you can build it!
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - west - 08:48 21-11-05
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Anthony wrote:
> To my way of thinking, mahogany is not as strong as maple, it has
> larger pores and just doesn't seem as hard as maple, such that it
> gives warmer mid range tones
>
> That property goes into the set neck philosphy you see with mahogany
> solid body guitars. If I were to desgin a mahogany set neck/body solid
> body guitar I'd have at least one single coil pick up in the
> arrangement to compensate or at least make splitting possible with
> stock humbuckers.
>
> Yet Gibson don't do this (in a standard way, not sure about PRS),
> thought they provide the maple top as a tone wood.
>
> On the other end of the spectrum, Fender's range with bolt on maple
> necks and a plethora of body woods (ash,alder etc) seem to offer the
> extra sharpness of single coil PUps (and ever so exquistely enhanced
> by the Telecaster bridge arrangement), without the sustain of same
> wood types.
>
> it begs the question I've never seen asked, does there exist a solid
> body pure maple set neck guitar with coil splitting humbuckers or a
> stock mahogany set body/neck guitar with bright pick ups ?
>
> Or have I got to go into the business of expensive experimentation
> with reagrd to guitar building ?
I think the Rickenbacker 660 an all maple guitar, but the neck is
through, not set. I love Rick pups . Very bright for humbuckers.
west
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - Patrick Keenan - 09:49 21-11-05
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"Anthony" <Anthony@NSyahooPAM.com> wrote in message
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> To my way of thinking, mahogany is not as strong as maple, it has
> larger pores and just doesn't seem as hard as maple, such that it
> gives warmer mid range tones
>
> That property goes into the set neck philosphy you see with mahogany
> solid body guitars. If I were to desgin a mahogany set neck/body solid
> body guitar I'd have at least one single coil pick up in the
> arrangement to compensate or at least make splitting possible with
> stock humbuckers.
>
> Yet Gibson don't do this (in a standard way, not sure about PRS),
> thought they provide the maple top as a tone wood.
>
> On the other end of the spectrum, Fender's range with bolt on maple
> necks and a plethora of body woods (ash,alder etc) seem to offer the
> extra sharpness of single coil PUps (and ever so exquistely enhanced
> by the Telecaster bridge arrangement), without the sustain of same
> wood types.
>
> it begs the question I've never seen asked, does there exist a solid
> body pure maple set neck guitar with coil splitting humbuckers
IIRC, the Gibson L6-S fit this description. Many early BC Rich and Lado
guitars also came close (they sometimes used other woods for decoration, and
were neck-through).
I'm not sure but the Gibson RD Artist may have also been in this
configuration. If not, it's easy enough to do a coil split (unless the
manufacturer potted the pickup in expoxy, as Gibson did for a while).
> or a
> stock mahogany set body/neck guitar with bright pick ups ?
>
> Or have I got to go into the business of expensive experimentation
> with reagrd to guitar building ?
You don't have to, but you can.
HTH
-pk
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - Jeff Thompson - 10:41 21-11-05
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Anthony wrote:
> To my way of thinking, mahogany is not as strong as maple, it has
> larger pores and just doesn't seem as hard as maple, such that it
> gives warmer mid range tones
>
> That property goes into the set neck philosphy you see with mahogany
> solid body guitars. If I were to desgin a mahogany set neck/body solid
> body guitar I'd have at least one single coil pick up in the
> arrangement to compensate or at least make splitting possible with
> stock humbuckers.
>
> Yet Gibson don't do this (in a standard way, not sure about PRS),
> thought they provide the maple top as a tone wood.
>
> On the other end of the spectrum, Fender's range with bolt on maple
> necks and a plethora of body woods (ash,alder etc) seem to offer the
> extra sharpness of single coil PUps (and ever so exquistely enhanced
> by the Telecaster bridge arrangement), without the sustain of same
> wood types.
>
> it begs the question I've never seen asked, does there exist a solid
> body pure maple set neck guitar with coil splitting humbuckers or a
> stock mahogany set body/neck guitar with bright pick ups ?
>
> Or have I got to go into the business of expensive experimentation
> with reagrd to guitar building ?
Martin Em-18
Rock Maple body with walnut
Mahogany Set Neck
Two Duncans with split coil capabilities.
Best damn neck I have ever played on an electric.
Jeff
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - tai fu - 11:39 21-11-05
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ever had a strat neck glued into its neck pocket? I wonder what that would
do.... of course you cant do that with the heel truss rod adjust, you would
have alot of trouble adjusting the trussrod if that were the case...
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - Keith Adams - 11:56 21-11-05
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Make it out of anything you want .It aint gonna make any difference
what type of wood you use . Its gonna sound the same. I've made
guitars out of all types of wood . Different pickups ,different players
,same signature sound.Likewise with the different types of necks. Set,
neck through or bolt on. Rickenbacker makes neck through guitars for
one reason only. Ease of build. Be forewarned. If you build a
totally solid body guitar it will be an inferior instrument.Too much
weight and it will lack unplugged natural sustain. Manufacturers build
em like that because its cheaper and easier.Choose your wood for
beauty and forget the sonic quality . Its hype
"Anthony" <Anthony@NSyahooPAM.com> wrote in message
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To my way of thinking, mahogany is not as strong as maple, it has
larger pores and just doesn't seem as hard as maple, such that it
gives warmer mid range tones
That property goes into the set neck philosphy you see with mahogany
solid body guitars. If I were to desgin a mahogany set neck/body solid
body guitar I'd have at least one single coil pick up in the
arrangement to compensate or at least make splitting possible with
stock humbuckers.
Yet Gibson don't do this (in a standard way, not sure about PRS),
thought they provide the maple top as a tone wood.
On the other end of the spectrum, Fender's range with bolt on maple
necks and a plethora of body woods (ash,alder etc) seem to offer the
extra sharpness of single coil PUps (and ever so exquistely enhanced
by the Telecaster bridge arrangement), without the sustain of same
wood types.
it begs the question I've never seen asked, does there exist a solid
body pure maple set neck guitar with coil splitting humbuckers or a
stock mahogany set body/neck guitar with bright pick ups ?
Or have I got to go into the business of expensive experimentation
with reagrd to guitar building ?
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - Patrick Keenan - 12:05 21-11-05
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"tai fu" <sdfgsdfg@aol.com> wrote in message
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> ever had a strat neck glued into its neck pocket? I wonder what that would
> do.... of course you cant do that with the heel truss rod adjust, you
would
> have alot of trouble adjusting the trussrod if that were the case...
That's easily fixed with a round file.
-pk
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - tai fu - 21:36 21-11-05
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Well you would also have to file the pickguard, and possibly omit the neck
pickup (because the neck pickup is too close to the heel) or making a custom
pickguard to omit the neck pickup.
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Re: Mahogany and maple. - §cİİt§ - 21:44 26-11-05
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"Keith Adams" <keithadams@socal.rr.com> wrote in message news:q%mgf.7888$QM5.7336@tornado.socal.rr.com...
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> If you build a totally solid body guitar it will be an inferior instrument.Too much
> weight and it will lack unplugged natural sustain. Manufacturers build
> em like that because its cheaper and easier.Choose your wood for
> beauty and forget the sonic quality . Its hype
LOL!
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