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Guitar Discussions -> A better question: why doesn't Fender do it?
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A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - No Name - 11:46 18-11-05
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Hey All,
So I just asked a question yesterday about shielding my strat and I got some
great answers. Thanks :-).
Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it in
the factory?
I can't imagine that it has anything to do with cost. I mean, I paid $1300
for my guitar, so I am sure the $20 worth of materials and labour can be
absorbed into that price.
I am also led to believe that it doesn't affect the tone in a negative way.
That being said, there must be a good reason. It can't be that 'it has
always been that way'. I just can't see it. Is there really a good, solid,
technical reason that guitars are not factory shielded?
If no one in this group knows a compelling answer to this, I will write to
Fender and let you know what they say.
Cheers.
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - Rick N. Backer - 14:17 18-11-05
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:46:28 GMT, "No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> did
courageously avow:
>Hey All,
>
>So I just asked a question yesterday about shielding my strat and I got some
>great answers. Thanks :-).
>
>Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it in
>the factory?
>
>I can't imagine that it has anything to do with cost. I mean, I paid $1300
>for my guitar, so I am sure the $20 worth of materials and labour can be
>absorbed into that price.
>
>I am also led to believe that it doesn't affect the tone in a negative way.
>
>That being said, there must be a good reason. It can't be that 'it has
>always been that way'. I just can't see it. Is there really a good, solid,
>technical reason that guitars are not factory shielded?
>
>If no one in this group knows a compelling answer to this, I will write to
>Fender and let you know what they say.
>
>Cheers.
>
I think Fender's bean counters will have this answer for you. The
process would not significantly add to sales nor would it
significantly subtract from sales. Therefore, their advise to Fender
would be the more fiscally sound don't do it.
Ken Wilson
Amer. Dlx. Tele, Gary Moore LP, LP DC Classic w/P90s,
Jeff Beck Strat, Morgan OM Acoustic,
Rick 360/12, Std. Strat (MIM), Mesa 100 Nomad,
Mesa F-30
"Goodnight Austin, Texas, wherever you are."
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - Jim Anable - 18:05 18-11-05
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Rick N. Backer wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:46:28 GMT, "No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> did
> courageously avow:
>
>
>>Hey All,
>>
>>So I just asked a question yesterday about shielding my strat and I got some
>>great answers. Thanks :-).
>>
>>Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it in
>>the factory?
>>
>>I can't imagine that it has anything to do with cost. I mean, I paid $1300
>>for my guitar, so I am sure the $20 worth of materials and labour can be
>>absorbed into that price.
>>
>>I am also led to believe that it doesn't affect the tone in a negative way.
>>
>>That being said, there must be a good reason. It can't be that 'it has
>>always been that way'. I just can't see it. Is there really a good, solid,
>>technical reason that guitars are not factory shielded?
>>
>>If no one in this group knows a compelling answer to this, I will write to
>>Fender and let you know what they say.
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>
> I think Fender's bean counters will have this answer for you. The
> process would not significantly add to sales nor would it
> significantly subtract from sales. Therefore, their advise to Fender
> would be the more fiscally sound don't do it.
...time and money!
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? -
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No Name wrote:
> Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it in
> the factory?
Because they've been getting away with it.
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - Bruce Morgen - 19:03 18-11-05
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misterwilliamc@yahoo.com wrote:
>No Name wrote:
>
>> Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it in
>> the factory?
>
>Because they've been getting away with it.
As have their major
competitors.
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - crow - 20:51 18-11-05
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I don't believe that Fender (or Gibson, either) is in any way concerned
about making the best instrument possible. These companies were taken over
by bean counters years ago and are run accordingly.
jepp
"No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
news:Eznff.116486$y_1.66579@edtnps89...
> Hey All,
>
> So I just asked a question yesterday about shielding my strat and I got
> some great answers. Thanks :-).
>
> Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it
> in the factory?
>
> I can't imagine that it has anything to do with cost. I mean, I paid $1300
> for my guitar, so I am sure the $20 worth of materials and labour can be
> absorbed into that price.
>
> I am also led to believe that it doesn't affect the tone in a negative
> way.
>
> That being said, there must be a good reason. It can't be that 'it has
> always been that way'. I just can't see it. Is there really a good, solid,
> technical reason that guitars are not factory shielded?
>
> If no one in this group knows a compelling answer to this, I will write to
> Fender and let you know what they say.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - strat alot - 00:19 19-11-05
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Aren't SRV Sig. Strats and some other Sig. Strats shielded?
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - Ether - 02:02 19-11-05
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crow wrote:
>
> "No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
> news:Eznff.116486$y_1.66579@edtnps89...
> > Hey All,
> >
> > So I just asked a question yesterday about shielding my strat and I got
> > some great answers. Thanks :-).
> >
> > Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it
> > in the factory?
> >
> > I can't imagine that it has anything to do with cost. I mean, I paid $1300
> > for my guitar, so I am sure the $20 worth of materials and labour can be
> > absorbed into that price.
> >
> > I am also led to believe that it doesn't affect the tone in a negative
> > way.
> >
> > That being said, there must be a good reason. It can't be that 'it has
> > always been that way'. I just can't see it. Is there really a good, solid,
> > technical reason that guitars are not factory shielded?
> >
> > If no one in this group knows a compelling answer to this, I will write to
> > Fender and let you know what they say.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
>
> I don't believe that Fender (or Gibson, either) is in any way concerned
> about making the best instrument possible. These companies were taken over
> by bean counters years ago and are run accordingly.
>
> jepp
If you compare the quality of Fender guitars during the latter CBS
period with the Fender guitars made in the last five or ten years, you
will find a MASSIVE improvement in quality.
Every company is concerned with the bottom line, but since the CBS
departure, Fender has realized that quality instruments *enhance* the
bottom line. Fender's high-end guitars kick serious ass these days.
--E
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - west - 10:01 19-11-05
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>
>>Hey All,
>>
>>So I just asked a question yesterday about shielding my strat and I got
>>some great answers. Thanks :-).
>>
>>Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it
>>in the factory?
>>
>>I can't imagine that it has anything to do with cost. I mean, I paid $1300
>>for my guitar, so I am sure the $20 worth of materials and labour can be
>>absorbed into that price.
>>
>>I am also led to believe that it doesn't affect the tone in a negative
>>way.
>>
>>That being said, there must be a good reason. It can't be that 'it has
>>always been that way'. I just can't see it. Is there really a good, solid,
>>technical reason that guitars are not factory shielded?
>>
>>If no one in this group knows a compelling answer to this, I will write to
>>Fender and let you know what they say.
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>
>
>
crow wrote:
> I don't believe that Fender (or Gibson, either) is in any way concerned
> about making the best instrument possible. These companies were taken over
> by bean counters years ago and are run accordingly.
>
> jepp
>
> "No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
> news:Eznff.116486$y_1.66579@edtnps89... >
My Epi LP has shielding paint in the control area from the factory.
west
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Re: A better question: why doesn't Fender do it? - Don Evans - 12:16 19-11-05
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"west" <westd@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
news:437f3e46$0$10627$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
>
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>>>Hey All,
>>>
>>>So I just asked a question yesterday about shielding my strat and I got
>>>some great answers. Thanks :-).
>>>
>>>Well, since it is such a great thing to do, then why doesn't Fender do it
>>>in the factory?
>>>
>>>I can't imagine that it has anything to do with cost. I mean, I paid
>>>$1300 for my guitar, so I am sure the $20 worth of materials and labour
>>>can be absorbed into that price.
>>>
>>>I am also led to believe that it doesn't affect the tone in a negative
>>>way.
>>>
>>>That being said, there must be a good reason. It can't be that 'it has
>>>always been that way'. I just can't see it. Is there really a good,
>>>solid, technical reason that guitars are not factory shielded?
>>>
>>>If no one in this group knows a compelling answer to this, I will write
>>>to Fender and let you know what they say.
>>>
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>
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> crow wrote:
>> I don't believe that Fender (or Gibson, either) is in any way concerned
>> about making the best instrument possible. These companies were taken
>> over by bean counters years ago and are run accordingly.
>>
>> jepp
>>
>> "No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
>> news:Eznff.116486$y_1.66579@edtnps89... >
>
> My Epi LP has shielding paint in the control area from the factory.
>
> west
So did my 94 American Standard. I'm not sure what Fender didn't do with
that guitar. It played well, and if I hadn't been working consistently in a
high hum environment, I might have kept the original pickups and everything.
I'm not a fan of the universal rout, but they've fixed that problem.
The shielding was more than adequate from the factory, and IMO star
grounding is nice, but I don't have star grounding with my Bill Lawrence
equipped strat and it's pretty damned quiet.
I just played a brand new Fender Strat with the SCN Lawrence pickups in it,
and it was a sweet axe.
Don
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