Shielding a Strat - No Name - 14:38 17-11-05
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Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
Got a link?
Any pointers?
Is it worth it?
I like to play on either the bridge position for lead work and the neck
position for anything clean or fuzzy rhythm sections. The buzz is driving me
nuts though. I have to leave my 5-way in either the 2nd or 4th position
while I am not playing and then quickly flip when I am about to play. I
suppose I am getting used to it, but I am considering trying to shield the
guitar so I can just worry about playing.
Any ideas or opinions are welcome. Thanks a lot.
Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
american big muff if that matters at all.
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Re: Shielding a Strat - Dr. Zontar - 14:52 17-11-05
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No Name wrote:
> Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
> Got a link?
www.guitarnuts.com
look for the article on shielding.
> Any pointers?
Use metal tape or paint. I cheaped out and used heavy-duty foil on my
frankenstrat. It didn't make a huge difference.
> Is it worth it?
If done right, I think so. At any rate, it can't hurt.
> Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
> american big muff if that matters at all.
Well, the Big Muff will definitely amplify any noise that goes into it.
So shielding may be a good idea. Me, I just keep my Strat in positions
2 and 4 (but I like those sounds anyway).
- Rich
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Re: Shielding a Strat - Patrick Keenan - 14:54 17-11-05
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"No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
news:b%4ff.113201$y_1.90114@edtnps89...
> Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
> Got a link?
Absolutely.
But read this first page first:
http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/index.php
And shielding.
http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/shielding/shield3.php
> Any pointers?
Be sure to use star grounding, and ensure that all shield elements are
actually connected to ground.
> Is it worth it?
Definitely. It's also not expensive.
>
> I like to play on either the bridge position for lead work and the neck
> position for anything clean or fuzzy rhythm sections. The buzz is driving
me
> nuts though. I have to leave my 5-way in either the 2nd or 4th position
> while I am not playing and then quickly flip when I am about to play. I
> suppose I am getting used to it, but I am considering trying to shield the
> guitar so I can just worry about playing.
Properly done, shielding can help enormously. However, there are other
sources of hum, including monitors, dimmers, and other nearby electrical
equipment, so bear in mind that you may find other places to reduce hum as
well.
HTH
-pk
>
> Any ideas or opinions are welcome. Thanks a lot.
>
> Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
> american big muff if that matters at all.
>
>
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Re: Shielding a Strat - Patrick Keenan - 15:42 17-11-05
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"Dr. Zontar" <drzontar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132257169.512552.275520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> No Name wrote:
> > Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
> > Got a link?
>
> www.guitarnuts.com
>
> look for the article on shielding.
>
> > Any pointers?
>
> Use metal tape or paint.
Please note that some conductive paints used for shielding are far more
toxic than ordinary paints. Read the directions, use more than adequate
ventilation, and masks as appropriate.
-pk
> I cheaped out and used heavy-duty foil on my
> frankenstrat. It didn't make a huge difference.
>
> > Is it worth it?
>
> If done right, I think so. At any rate, it can't hurt.
>
> > Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
> > american big muff if that matters at all.
>
> Well, the Big Muff will definitely amplify any noise that goes into it.
> So shielding may be a good idea. Me, I just keep my Strat in positions
> 2 and 4 (but I like those sounds anyway).
>
> - Rich
>
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Re: Shielding a Strat - Larry - 17:08 17-11-05
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I just had a thought.
How about that sticky-sided metal tape that Air conditioning/Heating tech's
use?
It may be aluminum and not suitable.
-Larry
"No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
news:b%4ff.113201$y_1.90114@edtnps89...
> Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
> Got a link?
> Any pointers?
> Is it worth it?
>
> I like to play on either the bridge position for lead work and the neck
> position for anything clean or fuzzy rhythm sections. The buzz is driving
> me nuts though. I have to leave my 5-way in either the 2nd or 4th position
> while I am not playing and then quickly flip when I am about to play. I
> suppose I am getting used to it, but I am considering trying to shield the
> guitar so I can just worry about playing.
>
> Any ideas or opinions are welcome. Thanks a lot.
>
> Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
> american big muff if that matters at all.
>
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Re: Shielding a Strat - Jeff Thompson - 17:28 17-11-05
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Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "Dr. Zontar" <drzontar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1132257169.512552.275520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> No Name wrote:
>>> Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
>>> Got a link?
>> www.guitarnuts.com
>>
>> look for the article on shielding.
>>
>>> Any pointers?
>> Use metal tape or paint.
>
> Please note that some conductive paints used for shielding are far more
> toxic than ordinary paints. Read the directions, use more than adequate
> ventilation, and masks as appropriate.
>
> -pk
>
>> I cheaped out and used heavy-duty foil on my
>> frankenstrat. It didn't make a huge difference.
>>
>>> Is it worth it?
>> If done right, I think so. At any rate, it can't hurt.
>>
>>> Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
>>> american big muff if that matters at all.
>> Well, the Big Muff will definitely amplify any noise that goes into it.
>> So shielding may be a good idea. Me, I just keep my Strat in positions
>> 2 and 4 (but I like those sounds anyway).
>>
>> - Rich
>>
>
>
Or get the shielding tape set StewartMac cheap and does the job well.
Also note if you do a search on ebay in the fender section someone has
been selling pre cut shields for gluing to the back of pickguards he
does strats and teles I did both of my tele's using his sheets and the
StewarMac tape and got a huge increase in gain. Note that you will
still hear a buzz, but you will notice that you are getting more volume
from your playing. I never realised until doing this that I adjusted my
amp volume by the noise and not by the volume level.
Jeff
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Re: Shielding a Strat - Jeff Thompson - 17:29 17-11-05
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Larry wrote:
> I just had a thought.
>
> How about that sticky-sided metal tape that Air conditioning/Heating tech's
> use?
>
> It may be aluminum and not suitable.
>
> -Larry
>
> "No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
> news:b%4ff.113201$y_1.90114@edtnps89...
>> Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
>> Got a link?
>> Any pointers?
>> Is it worth it?
>>
>> I like to play on either the bridge position for lead work and the neck
>> position for anything clean or fuzzy rhythm sections. The buzz is driving
>> me nuts though. I have to leave my 5-way in either the 2nd or 4th position
>> while I am not playing and then quickly flip when I am about to play. I
>> suppose I am getting used to it, but I am considering trying to shield the
>> guitar so I can just worry about playing.
>>
>> Any ideas or opinions are welcome. Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
>> american big muff if that matters at all.
>>
>
>
You would have to solder the tape together to make sure it was
conductive or wire each piece into the ground. StewartMac has a tape
that has conductive adheassive so you would only need one ground wire
soldered in.
Plus I don't know if aluminum is conductive enough for this.
Jeff
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No Name wrote:
> Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
> Got a link?
> Any pointers?
Already mentioned, guitarnuts.com.
That's where I learned.
I have two strats done up.
Used regular Reynolds aluminum foil from the grocery store.
Loctite contact cement for the cavity, Duro All-Purpose Spray Adhesive
for the back of the guard.
Made sure all pieces that over-lap didn't have glue between them (as in
a good connection); used electrical tape to secure one flap on another
piece.
Also a of lip of foil from the cavity onto the top of the guitar that
meets the foil covered pickguard so a good connection made.
Mindful, methodical, Made enormous difference, directions followed,
star-ground with no loops.
I'll never again put up with a strat that isn't taken care of in this
dept.
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Re: Shielding a Strat - Ether - 19:35 17-11-05
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Jeff Thompson wrote:
> Larry wrote:
> > I just had a thought.
> >
> > How about that sticky-sided metal tape that Air conditioning/Heating tech's
> > use?
> >
> > It may be aluminum and not suitable.
> >
> > -Larry
> >
> > "No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
> > news:b%4ff.113201$y_1.90114@edtnps89...
> >> Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
> >> Got a link?
> >> Any pointers?
> >> Is it worth it?
> >>
> >> I like to play on either the bridge position for lead work and the neck
> >> position for anything clean or fuzzy rhythm sections. The buzz is driving
> >> me nuts though. I have to leave my 5-way in either the 2nd or 4th position
> >> while I am not playing and then quickly flip when I am about to play. I
> >> suppose I am getting used to it, but I am considering trying to shield the
> >> guitar so I can just worry about playing.
> >>
> >> Any ideas or opinions are welcome. Thanks a lot.
> >>
> >> Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
> >> american big muff if that matters at all.
> >>
> >
> >
> You would have to solder the tape together to make sure it was
> conductive or wire each piece into the ground. StewartMac has a tape
> that has conductive adheassive so you would only need one ground wire
> soldered in.
>
> Plus I don't know if aluminum is conductive enough for this.
>
> Jeff
Seeing as how aluminum was actually used as AC house wiring for years
(before it was discovered to be a fire hazard), and how aluminum is
also often used for amplifier chassis, I would imagine that it is
plenty conductive enough to be a guitar cavity shield.
--E
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Re: Shielding a Strat - Jeff Thompson - 19:44 17-11-05
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Ether wrote:
> Jeff Thompson wrote:
>> Larry wrote:
>>> I just had a thought.
>>>
>>> How about that sticky-sided metal tape that Air conditioning/Heating tech's
>>> use?
>>>
>>> It may be aluminum and not suitable.
>>>
>>> -Larry
>>>
>>> "No Name" <noname@nocompany.com> wrote in message
>>> news:b%4ff.113201$y_1.90114@edtnps89...
>>>> Anyone here shield their strat or know someone else who has?
>>>> Got a link?
>>>> Any pointers?
>>>> Is it worth it?
>>>>
>>>> I like to play on either the bridge position for lead work and the neck
>>>> position for anything clean or fuzzy rhythm sections. The buzz is driving
>>>> me nuts though. I have to leave my 5-way in either the 2nd or 4th position
>>>> while I am not playing and then quickly flip when I am about to play. I
>>>> suppose I am getting used to it, but I am considering trying to shield the
>>>> guitar so I can just worry about playing.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas or opinions are welcome. Thanks a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I play an american standard through a 2000 '65 twin reissue with an
>>>> american big muff if that matters at all.
>>>>
>>>
>> You would have to solder the tape together to make sure it was
>> conductive or wire each piece into the ground. StewartMac has a tape
>> that has conductive adheassive so you would only need one ground wire
>> soldered in.
>>
>> Plus I don't know if aluminum is conductive enough for this.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Seeing as how aluminum was actually used as AC house wiring for years
> (before it was discovered to be a fire hazard), and how aluminum is
> also often used for amplifier chassis, I would imagine that it is
> plenty conductive enough to be a guitar cavity shield.
>
> --E
>
Excellent, I never really played with it much so didn't know at all.
Which is why I said I don't know if. Hmmm means the reynolds wrap in
the cupboard might be good to experiment with the Jazzmaster.
Jeff
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