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Guitar Discussions -> Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr.
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Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - Chippsta - 09:52 07-11-05
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I'm looking for another 1X12 combo amp and have narrowed my search to
these two. Does anyone have experience with BOTH ? I play a pretty
big range of stuff from quiet acoustic, to R&B, Classic Country, and
Southern Rock. Main instruments are Strat with Lawrence Pups, an
Jag-stang clone with P-90's, a fender electric acoustic mandolin, an
Epiphone Mandobird, and a Dano 12-string electric. I've been using a
'70's silver faced Deluxe Reverb, but some of the music i'm playing now
is pretty quiet and that amp just doesn't sound really good when set on
"2" ... it also sounds mushy with the P-90 guitar.
Any Ideas ?
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - Jon Slaughter - 10:21 07-11-05
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"Chippsta" <chreaux@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131375138.667114.224410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking for another 1X12 combo amp and have narrowed my search to
> these two. Does anyone have experience with BOTH ? I play a pretty
> big range of stuff from quiet acoustic, to R&B, Classic Country, and
> Southern Rock. Main instruments are Strat with Lawrence Pups, an
> Jag-stang clone with P-90's, a fender electric acoustic mandolin, an
> Epiphone Mandobird, and a Dano 12-string electric. I've been using a
> '70's silver faced Deluxe Reverb, but some of the music i'm playing now
> is pretty quiet and that amp just doesn't sound really good when set on
> "2" ... it also sounds mushy with the P-90 guitar.
> Any Ideas ?
>
I have a great idea. Goto the music store and start playing them!!! I have a
Peavey DB and its not a great amp. I say its to "honky"... as in a duck.
You should really just go play amps and find one you like by your on ears.
Relying on someone to tell you might just get you a piece of shit you won't
end up liking.
You might look into a very small wattage amp(<1 amp) if you cant crank
them.. The DB is very loud and I can't play it past 2 either. I'm thinking
about getting a THD Hot plate as they are suppose to be very good
attenuators letting you run your amp full blown without blowing your ears
out. Not sure how much they color the tone but its not suppose to be much.
Jon
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - The Chris - 11:01 07-11-05
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"Chippsta" <chreaux@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1131375138.667114.224410
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> I'm looking for another 1X12 combo amp and have narrowed my search to
> these two. Does anyone have experience with BOTH ? I play a pretty
> big range of stuff from quiet acoustic, to R&B, Classic Country, and
> Southern Rock. Main instruments are Strat with Lawrence Pups, an
> Jag-stang clone with P-90's, a fender electric acoustic mandolin, an
> Epiphone Mandobird, and a Dano 12-string electric. I've been using a
> '70's silver faced Deluxe Reverb, but some of the music i'm playing now
> is pretty quiet and that amp just doesn't sound really good when set on
> "2" ... it also sounds mushy with the P-90 guitar.
> Any Ideas ?
>
>
I've had both, and the Classic 20.
Right off the bat, the Classic 30 is louder - it's a bigger amp. It has
a loop - which the BJ doesn't have. Other than that, they're pretty
similar (I had the same Celestion Vintage 30 speaker in both). The way I
used those amps was to set them as clean as possible, and I got all my
distortion from boxes. So, I can't really speak for the distortion of
either. I play with a lot of gain - think Judas Priest, Kiss, Van Halen
sounds. It can go backwards from any of that stuff.
The Classic was heavier too - and ran at 16 ohms - so there was some
specific thing you had to do if you wanted to use it with another cab -
perhaps use a 16 ohm cab. With the BJ, you unplug the internal speaker
and can use an 8 ohm cab.
Other than that - I thought they were similar.... I went back and forth
between the two before I settled on the BJ.
My reason?? I read a bunch of horror stories about how reparing them are
a bear because of all the ribbon cable and stacked boards inside.
However, I've read the same about the BJ, so, there was no real advantage
to me selling the classic.
I LOVE the Blues Jr. If you want to hear clips of mine, there are six
songs I just did with it here... It will help if you're a Kiss fan :)
http://www.coldgin.com/
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - The Chris - 11:03 07-11-05
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"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote in
news:11mus5vp3u1jdef@corp.supernews.com:
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> "Chippsta" <chreaux@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1131375138.667114.224410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm looking for another 1X12 combo amp and have narrowed my search to
>> these two. Does anyone have experience with BOTH ? I play a pretty
>> big range of stuff from quiet acoustic, to R&B, Classic Country, and
>> Southern Rock. Main instruments are Strat with Lawrence Pups, an
>> Jag-stang clone with P-90's, a fender electric acoustic mandolin, an
>> Epiphone Mandobird, and a Dano 12-string electric. I've been using a
>> '70's silver faced Deluxe Reverb, but some of the music i'm playing
>> now is pretty quiet and that amp just doesn't sound really good when
>> set on "2" ... it also sounds mushy with the P-90 guitar.
>> Any Ideas ?
>>
>
> I have a great idea. Goto the music store and start playing them!!! I
> have a Peavey DB and its not a great amp. I say its to "honky"... as
> in a duck.
>
> You should really just go play amps and find one you like by your on
> ears. Relying on someone to tell you might just get you a piece of
> shit you won't end up liking.
>
> You might look into a very small wattage amp(<1 amp) if you cant crank
> them.. The DB is very loud and I can't play it past 2 either. I'm
> thinking about getting a THD Hot plate as they are suppose to be very
> good attenuators letting you run your amp full blown without blowing
> your ears out. Not sure how much they color the tone but its not
> suppose to be much.
>
> Jon
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It's hard to do that in a 'non-gigging' environment. I've had amps that
sounded good in my basement, but just didn't cut it with bass, drums,
vocals, and cymbals....
So, I'm assuming he wants opinions from people who have gigged with them,
and/or recorded with them. I got all my amps from Ebay... And I changed
the speakers IMMEDIATELY. You ain't gonna get to do that in Guitar
Center.
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - peevee_hermann - 11:47 07-11-05
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On 7 Nov 2005 06:52:18 -0800, "Chippsta" <chreaux@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I'm looking for another 1X12 combo amp and have narrowed my search to
>these two. Does anyone have experience with BOTH ?
I own both and use both regularly. I go back and forth between them.
the Peavey's louder. It has an outstanding clean and a useable, altho
not great, distortion channel. Some gigs I have done with just the
Classic 30 and a tuner, and thats great for jams and things.
Usually I pre-amp either amp with a variety of whatever pedals and
doodads I am currently fond of. The BluesJr isnt really loud enough on
its own to get over a loud drummer, well it is, barely, without micing
it and putting it into a PA/monitors. The Classic 30 is.
but the Blues Jr is considerably lighter in weight.
>"2" ... it also sounds mushy with the P-90 guitar.
the clean channel on the Classic 30 sounds excellent on a P90 equipped
guitar.
To me, its sort of a toss up between the two. On the other hand, I
switched out the tubes and the speaker with the Classic 30 but the
Blues Jr is all stock.
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - peevee_hermann - 11:50 07-11-05
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On 7 Nov 2005 16:01:08 GMT, The Chris <cabell@nospam.hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>My reason?? I read a bunch of horror stories about how reparing them are
>a bear because of all the ribbon cable and stacked boards inside.
>However, I've read the same about the BJ, so, there was no real advantage
>to me selling the classic.
then theres the mythological "peavey death tube rattle syndrome" which
some say, all Classic 30s are destined to be subject to eventually. My
Classic 30 amp does rattle a little bit, it could be the tubes, or the
tube sockets, or maybe its something else, but really, I never noticed
it until we took it into the studio. THEN we heard it. But its fine
for a gig, I use it all the time.
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - The Chris - 13:36 07-11-05
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peevee_hermann <peevee_hermann@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:da1vm1djobnjhq0k8ki3ifja974g06891u@4ax.com:
> On 7 Nov 2005 16:01:08 GMT, The Chris <cabell@nospam.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
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>>My reason?? I read a bunch of horror stories about how reparing them
>>are a bear because of all the ribbon cable and stacked boards inside.
>>However, I've read the same about the BJ, so, there was no real
>>advantage to me selling the classic.
>
>
> then theres the mythological "peavey death tube rattle syndrome" which
> some say, all Classic 30s are destined to be subject to eventually. My
> Classic 30 amp does rattle a little bit, it could be the tubes, or the
> tube sockets, or maybe its something else, but really, I never noticed
> it until we took it into the studio. THEN we heard it. But its fine
> for a gig, I use it all the time.
>
I heard about that - there were some early ones where the tubes shook out
of the socket - mine had some spring contraption on it. And I see some
Ebay things for that. I think ALL combo amps are targets for that sort
of thing. Face it, if you're playing loud, and you're making that speaker
scream, and the speaker is 2 inches from tubes - it's trouble waiting to
happen.
I think I opened up my Blues Jr. once and was amazed at how much cracked
plastic was around the jacks... Nothing hindered the sound, but I
replaced all the plastic with Switchcraft jacks just to be sure...
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - The Chris - 14:04 07-11-05
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peevee_hermann <peevee_hermann@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:au0vm118mkckhps1k3o7j3cbjijmrm5kki@4ax.com:
> On 7 Nov 2005 06:52:18 -0800, "Chippsta" <chreaux@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm looking for another 1X12 combo amp and have narrowed my search to
>>these two. Does anyone have experience with BOTH ?
>
>
> I own both and use both regularly. I go back and forth between them.
>
> the Peavey's louder. It has an outstanding clean and a useable, altho
> not great, distortion channel. Some gigs I have done with just the
> Classic 30 and a tuner, and thats great for jams and things.
>
> Usually I pre-amp either amp with a variety of whatever pedals and
> doodads I am currently fond of. The BluesJr isnt really loud enough on
> its own to get over a loud drummer, well it is, barely, without micing
> it and putting it into a PA/monitors. The Classic 30 is.
>
> but the Blues Jr is considerably lighter in weight.
>
>
>>"2" ... it also sounds mushy with the P-90 guitar.
>
>
> the clean channel on the Classic 30 sounds excellent on a P90 equipped
> guitar.
>
> To me, its sort of a toss up between the two. On the other hand, I
> switched out the tubes and the speaker with the Classic 30 but the
> Blues Jr is all stock.
>
>
Man, sounds like we have the same rigs/requirements...
However, mine plays more from Alive II, as oppossed to your Alive I cuts
:)
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - Guncho - 14:51 07-11-05
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Chippsta wrote:
> I'm looking for another 1X12 combo amp and have narrowed my search to
> these two. Does anyone have experience with BOTH ? I play a pretty
> big range of stuff from quiet acoustic, to R&B, Classic Country, and
> Southern Rock. Main instruments are Strat with Lawrence Pups, an
> Jag-stang clone with P-90's, a fender electric acoustic mandolin, an
> Epiphone Mandobird, and a Dano 12-string electric. I've been using a
> '70's silver faced Deluxe Reverb, but some of the music i'm playing now
> is pretty quiet and that amp just doesn't sound really good when set on
> "2" ... it also sounds mushy with the P-90 guitar.
> Any Ideas ?
I tried the Blues Jr in a store and thought it sounded great quiet or
cranked. At low volumes, I played Neil Young to Drop D metal riffs on
it and it sounded great!
You won't be able to crank anything above like 2 watts without it being
LOUD!
I've seen bands use Blues Jr's at big concerts and in clubs.
I haven't played the Peavey in so long that I really can't remember
what it sounds like but Fender does have a better reputation than
Peavey does.
Chris
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Re: Compare Peavey Classic 30 and Fender Blues Jr. - Jim Anable - 16:08 07-11-05
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Guncho wrote:
> Chippsta wrote:
>
>>I'm looking for another 1X12 combo amp and have narrowed my search to
>>these two. Does anyone have experience with BOTH ? I play a pretty
>>big range of stuff from quiet acoustic, to R&B, Classic Country, and
>>Southern Rock. Main instruments are Strat with Lawrence Pups, an
>>Jag-stang clone with P-90's, a fender electric acoustic mandolin, an
>>Epiphone Mandobird, and a Dano 12-string electric. I've been using a
>>'70's silver faced Deluxe Reverb, but some of the music i'm playing now
>>is pretty quiet and that amp just doesn't sound really good when set on
>>"2" ... it also sounds mushy with the P-90 guitar.
>>Any Ideas ?
>
>
> I tried the Blues Jr in a store and thought it sounded great quiet or
> cranked. At low volumes, I played Neil Young to Drop D metal riffs on
> it and it sounded great!
>
> You won't be able to crank anything above like 2 watts without it being
> LOUD!
>
> I've seen bands use Blues Jr's at big concerts and in clubs.
>
> I haven't played the Peavey in so long that I really can't remember
> what it sounds like but Fender does have a better reputation than
> Peavey does.
Where do you get this "better reputation" from? Just the name, itself?
When it comes to the amps, I'm not sure I'd go with modern Fender
products over Peavey. Neither of them are bullet proof, that's for sure.
I'd contact some experienced techs and ask them about SPECIFIC models,
if you're interested in reliability.
For tone? Play it yourself and you decide. Only buy what can be
returned, because what sounds good at the shop may not pan out in a
gigging situation, or in your bedroom, for that matter.
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